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Squalene Research under adjuvant codes MF-59 & MSP1.42

 
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Tom Trefts
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PostPosted: Mon May 30, 2005 5:52 pm    Post subject: Squalene Research under adjuvant codes MF-59 & MSP1.42 Reply with quote

http://xsorbit27.com/users5/unifiedveteranscoalition/index.php?topic=1075.msg1460#msg1460

Here is another location of squalene research, this time by Sandra Chang @ LEAHI HOSPITAL in Honolulu, Hawaii.

Gary, I have given my copy of your book to my psychologist who is a disabled Korean War veteran & PhD. and I will be discussing the Squalene issue with another noted local doctor at length who studied in ITALY. I will inform her of my concerns about the Chiron Flu Vaccine in use in Europe, and she may get word out over there. One of her nursing staff used to be a nurse in the VA and is fully alert to the adverse health consequences that can be brought on by squalene based vaccines.

I would also normally consider sending letters and email to the Japanese, Thailand, and South Korean embassies in an effort to warn them about the possible squalene in the AVAIN BIRD FLU vaccines slated for use in the Far East, but I don't have any credentials to make an impact. I would gladly add my name to a letter of this kind if someone with obvious credentials could write it. I'm sure that there are plenty of other vets who would do likewise.

Any thoughts on creating warning letters or possibly creating a master list of vaccines which also contain squalene along with the various codes currently in use?

GOD BLESS OUR VETS !

Thomas W. Trefts aka RainbowRising

Disabled USAF Veteran - Gulf War Illness / Spinal Injuries

Flight Line Specialist & Jet Engine Mechanic

RAF Alconbury 10th Component Repair Squadron 1989-1991

Launching, Repairing & Cleaning A-10 Warthogs

In Support of Operations Desert Shield and Desert Storm

National Defense Medal / Honorable Discharge

Co-Founder of the Unified Veterans Coalition

http://xsorbit27.com/users5/unifiedveteranscoalition/

Chairman of the Veterans Party of Ohio

http://www.veteransparty.us/

or http://www.leaguelineup.com/welcome.asp?url=veteransparty
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 07, 2005 4:55 am    Post subject: Reply to Tom Trefts Reply with quote

Dear Tom: As I 've explained in previous postings, I'm a journalist, not a lobbyist. While I sympathize with veterans (my father and three of my uncles were all U.S. Army vets; I did two years of Army R.O.T.C. in college) I don't write letters of protest or advise people on what to do in response to the information that I've published. That would be advocacy, not journalism.

I wrote a book that lays out the evidence that a series of experiments have been underway to create a viable recombinant DNA anthrax vaccine boosted with squalene. There is forensic scientific evidence that in the effort to develop this "second generation" anthrax vaccine at least one experiment involving troops was organized to see if a homeopathic dosage (parts per billion or lower) of squalene could "tolerize" people to an oil molecule that has proven toxic when injected into four different animals: mice, rats, guinea pigs and rabbits. Tulane would argue that squalene is also toxic in a fifth kind of animal: man.

Squalene is without question an immunogenic molecule, which means the immune system reacts to it. Injecting squalene promotes an immune response to a molecule that is found in the human nervous and endocrine systems. An immune response to a self molecule is the essence of autoimmunity. In this case, that injurious response - one that causes in animals a version of rheumatoid arthritis, multiple sclerosis and lupus - is caused by a vaccine, which is, ironically, something created to protect people from harm.

In the 1990s, scientists at the NIH believed they could manipulate the human immune system into tolerating an otherwise immunogenic molecule by injecting an ultra low dose of that molecule into a patient, which would then be processed by an immune cell called the dendritic cell. At the time, NIH scientists believed dendritic cells could either immunize or tolerize the body to an injected substance.

Working with in cooperation with Chiron, NIH scientists established in the late 1990s that dendritic cells processed squalene. After NIH and Chiron scientists published their data in 1998, low doses of squalene - in what appeared to be a twofold serial dilution series - appeared in the military's anthrax vaccine supply. This also coincided with the 1998 formation of the NIH Working Group (NIH, FDA and DOD) to accelerate the development of the rDNA anthrax vaccine (rPA102) has been combined with squalene-based adjuvants. Several rPA102 prototypes contained squalene, including the British version of the new anthrax vaccine.

I stand by the accuracy of this information, as does my publisher, but what I did was conduct an investigation; I did not embark on a lifelong crusade.

I extend to you my best wishes in all your endeavors. I hope you attain peace, and achieve justice.

Sincerely,
Gary Matsumoto
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 08, 2005 1:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gary,

As you know, I've been watching this website for as while, and have noticed (as I'm sure you have) desperation among those people affected (or possibly affected) by the vaccine. Because of your book, sick people suddenly have a possible explanation for mysterious symptoms that have been haunting them for years. Like moths to a flame, people are coming to you for help.

Everyone appreciates your work in writing this book; you have performed an act of patriotism that will positively affect our wounded, uncompensated veterans, regardless of your original intentions for the project. Because of this, people seek your help.

I understand the need to maintain your journalistic credentials; It COULD be damaging to your career if you became entangled in "GWS Ghost hunting" without ever being fully vindicated, or if you were perceived as a "radical liberal" reporter.

However, by writing this book, you by default assume at least SOME responsibility for those that seek your help; I know you refer the sick to Dr. Asa, and those people are grateful; but there is a LOT of time and energy out there just LOOKING for an outlet. If you cannot lead an organization or a group, why not at least encourage organization? People want to make a difference, but in general don't know how.

Would you be willing to at least provide some guidance to those that may want to promote an issue, which may result in more attention to your book?
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 09, 2005 4:49 am    Post subject: Reply to Zack Reply with quote

Dear Zack: I'm a Dirty Harry fan. Harry Callahan is a walking paradox: a cynical moralist, a compassionate brute ... a virtually bullet-proof über-cop who knew there were some things he could do; and some things he couldn't do (like keep his less bullet-proof partners alive). "A man's got to know his limitations."

If I've learned anything in writing this book, it's my limitations. I know what I can do, and what I cannot do. I can write well; occasionally with panache. I can be accurate; there is, by my reckoning, fewer than a half dozen factual errors in my densely reported 300-page book. I can support what I write; I've catalogued hundreds of peer-reviewed scientific papers on this subject in addition to tens of thousands of supporting documents.

Here's what I cannot do. If I report that scientists around the world have shown that animals injected with squalene develop an array of autoimmune diseases, and that humans injected with squalene have developed diseases that are identical to the ones in animals so immunized; and I provide all the references to support this; and, then, if FDA, NIH and DOD officials tell journalists and lawmakers that injecting trace quantities of squalene is harmless without providing data to support this assertion, and said journalists and lawmakers conclude that the FDA, NIH and DOD are correct without requiring these agencies to provide supporting evidence; then, my friend Zack, I cannot do anything more.

I cannot control what people think any more than I can control whether the sun will rise tomorrow in the east, or the tide will be high at the next full moon.

That's what I've been trying to get across to those people who've prevailed upon me to do more than just report the facts. "A man's got to know his limitations," and I know mine. I'm smart, but there're a lot of people who're smarter. I work hard to get my facts right, but I still make mistakes. I care about the veterans and active duty military personnel whom I believe, based on the available forensic and clinical data, have been injured in a series of vaccine experiment that are, by the standards of the Nuremberg Code and Helskinki Declaration, unethical; but I cannot lead these people in a crusade on this matter.

That is due to a self-imposed limitation. I refuse to become an advocate or activist for this issue because it would discredit my reporting on it. Getting my facts straight is a journalism task. Persuading others to believe those facts is a political task. I am not a politician.

However much I might be emotionally inclined to offer the guidance you speak of, I refuse to do so as an act of necessary self-disclipline. I believe the best I can do for my readers is to tell them about something that I think they need to know, and to be as accurate in the telling as I can.

The British press baron, Lord Northcliffe once said that journalism is "what somebody somewhere wants suppressed; the rest is just advertising." I wrote VACCINE A in the belief that information about the toxicity of squalene has been systematically ignored, if not suppressed, while we preoccupy ourselves with latest on Michael Jackson and Jessica Simpson. These days, journalism busies itself with what Lord Northcliffe would probably dismiss as advertising; celebrity coverage, for instance, is a form of advertising, I think. Celebrities are a kind of brand, a commodity that is mass marketed through stories on shows like Access Hollywood, The Today Show, Good Morning America, Dateline, 20/20 and 60 Minutes. Such stories build "brand awareness" for "commodities" like Tom Cruise and Katie Holmes, Brad Pitt and Angelina Jolie. Brand awareness of Tom Cruise sells tickets to War of the Worlds; publicizing the Brad Pitt and Angelina Jolie brands boosts the box office for Mr and Mrs Smith, and so on. Seen in this light, publicity is advertising. And, in all fairness to the shows that air celebrity stories, the public has an insatiable appetite for them.

No one can accuse VACCINE A of being advertising. It certainly didn't do anything for the Gary Matsumoto brand in journalism. That is just as well, because publicizing the Gary Matsumoto brand was not the point in writing this book. In fact, I knew when I embarked on this endeavor that it would more likely damage my brand (which is so obscure that it sounds almost grandiose to discuss myself in these terms) than burnish it. So I will defend what I've written (where it is defensible), but I will not lobby on behalf of it. To do so, I believe, would be detrimental to its credibility.

That's the long answer to these questions you posed:

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"If you cannot lead an organization or a group, why not at least encourage organization? People want to make a difference, but in general don't know how.

Would you be willing to at least provide some guidance to those that may want to promote an issue, which may result in more attention to your book?"


Here's my short answer: "No, I won't encourage organization." I understand that people want to make a difference; and I sympathize with that. But I've already tried to make a difference the best way that I know how: through my reporting.

Sincerely,
Gary Matsumoto
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 09, 2005 3:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dear Gary,

I do understand where you are coming from, and (for the most part) agree with what you are saying; your job is to report the facts, not to become biased by obviously siding with one side or the other. your journalistic integrity requires you to remain neutral. And, like you said, you have contributed the best way you can; by writing an excellent book.

I also share your frustration with the crap that passes for news these days. Behind the shiny curtain of professional sports, celebrity gossip, slick mutimedia marketing campaigns, and partisan fighting heads lies some serious issues, one of which being the Hydra you referred to in your previous post. It is little wonder that quality work like yours is overlooked; it makes it look as if our govt is not looking out for it's citizen's best interrests (which they're not).

Anyway, as I have in previous posts, I want to thank you again for writing the book; Even if you cannot lead those that have fallen in behind you, at least you have shown them the trail!


Zack
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 10, 2005 5:14 am    Post subject: Direct Link Reply with quote

http://www.who.int/vaccine_research/about/2003_novel_adjuvants/en/04_chang.pdf#search='MF59%20Adjuvant
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 14, 2005 8:02 pm    Post subject: You can too do more Gary! Reply with quote

You want to know what more you can do, Gary? btw I figured out my original login name and reset it so I can actually post in a manner where you are certain of my identity.

Anyways. We cannot do anything about the Feres Doctrine unless we get enough signatures for a petition or Congress actually takes action. BUT ... here is what we can do. It is so easy. We sue the Federal Government for a class-action case for SLANDER and DEFAMATION of CHARACTER regarding all Gulf War Veterans after Desert Storm who were made out to be mentally ill of malingerers seeking easy money.

It really is this easy. You will be the main witness and we can use all the information you have concerning your book. It is a civil case. Make it for at least $300 Billion. See to it the proceeds of the lawsuit are placed in a trust account for compensation for all veterans afflicted so we are all rated 100% SC.

Am I the only one that sees this?

I am ill and I lack resources to make this work. I need help to do this and so far I have been ignored. Perhaps you will all see this reality. This makes America stronger.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 18, 2005 4:02 pm    Post subject: Reply to giddyup_sam; RE: You can too do more Gary! Reply with quote

Dear giddyup_sam: I'm sorry you are ill, but I believe that you are, in fact, the only person who sees the alleged logic in your proposal to organize a defamation suit against the government concerning Gulf War illness.

Even if such an action were viable, and do not believe it is, I could not act as the "main witness." I'm not an expert; I'm a journalist. I've reported the data from research done by the real experts and reported the contents of heretofore classified documents (now declassified). I do not have the expertise to validate personal injury claims, or claims of defamation.

This is the last time I'm going to say this. Again, I'm sorry you're ill. I urge you to work with your primary care physician to determine the precise nature of your illness through clinical testing. Once you have a diagnosis, you may be able to treat your illness.

Your illness, assuming that you have one (I have not seen your medical records to verify that you do), may be related to the issues in VACCINE A, but you cannot presume this to be the case. At a minimum, to show a connection, you would need to verify that you have anti-squalene antibodies in your serum, that you developed these antibodies as a consequence of immunization with squalene-laced vaccine and that you developed said antibodies, and a verifiable autoimmune disease, post-vaccination. Your autoimmune disease, if you have one, should be one of those that've been induced experimentally in animals by injecting them with squalene (e.g., rheumatoid arthritis, systemic lupus erythematosus, multiple sclerosis and autoimmune thyroid disease).

That's just a start. All this data would still only demonstrate a correlation between your illness and immunization with squalene. In science, correlation does not prove causation.

Desparation, emotionalism and panic will not help you. By investing so much emotion in an untenable idea, you're setting yourself up for even deeper disillusionment.

I urge you to consult your doctor about your ailments. As for the legal case that you propose, I believe it lacks merit. But I'm not a lawyer, so I urge you to discuss your idea with someone who is. If you cannot afford a lawyer, you may be able to find a law firm or legal aid group that will give you pro bono counsel on this matter. I believe any lawyer who knows tort law and handles defamation cases will tell you the same thing: that your idea, however well-intentioned, has no legal foundation, and hence, cannot be given serious consideration by any court in the land.

Sincerely,
Gary Matsumoto
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 27, 2005 5:11 am    Post subject: More Fool's Gold Fun With Squalene as MF-59 Reply with quote

http://www.ihmf.org/journal/download/81bernstein(8)vol88.pdf#search='adjuvant%20MF59'
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 27, 2005 11:16 pm    Post subject: Google Search Results Under Adjuvant MF-59 Reply with quote

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=adjuvant+MF-59&btnG=Google+Search

I have contacted one Harvard Doctor by email thus far & refered him to the Tulane University Studies & asked him to search under Dr. Pamela Asa. I also warned him about the avian bird flu situation.

I'm not afraid of birds. Nobody's really going very far around here with the price of gas as it is anyways.

Stay home, watch football, don't eat dead birds not certified by KFC.

Best Regards,

Tom Trefts aka RainbowRising Wink
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